dude, what’s up. I have an awesome interview for you. I’m excited to get to this. We’re speaking with cory reynolds and he’s from crc guitars and uh, cory, thanks for coming on today, thanks for having me so, cory, before we get too far into the interview, even though it just started, I like to ask everyone like how did you? Well, I guess I have a different interview. A different opening question for you is obviously you make guitars and stuff, but do you play guitars? And if you do, well, how did you get started playing guitars?
0:00:37 – Speaker 2
I do play very poorly, but I started playing on bass actually.
0:00:43 – Speaker 1
Oh nice. So what? What brought you down? Like wanting to play an instrument, like what you know, what kind of music do you listen to? Or like what was it that kind of spurred that on?
0:00:53 – Speaker 2
Let’s see. I mean we got to go back and hop in the time machine.
0:00:58 – Speaker 1
Yeah, no, I hear you.
0:00:58 – Speaker 2
When I was like you know, 12, 13 or so me and my younger brother. He actually wanted to play guitar. And 12, 13 or so, me and my younger brother. He actually wanted to play guitar and, um, like we were, we both had an interest in it but he was, you know more so interested in playing. So, like he wanted to play, he ended up I can’t remember if we got him at the same time or not, but like he wanted to play guitar and it just kind of made sense, like if we’re gonna play and like have a band, we’re gonna need a bass player.
So I was like I’ll just play bass, whatever yeah, yeah, yeah but, um, so, like we, we both got instruments and we just, we both started taking lessons at the same time.
0:01:33 – Speaker 1
Um, and I mean did you always jam in the same bands at all, were you? Oh, we did for a long time.
0:01:40 – Speaker 2
Yeah, that’s cool um, but you know, we were listening like let’s see what was. What were we listening to back then, like led zeppelin and stuff like that?
0:01:50 – Speaker 1
um, that was like a huge influence for us nice nice, which is you know a very stereotypical answer, but um no, I hear you mine’s metallica it’s, you know. I mean yeah, like everything like this.
0:02:03 – Speaker 2
This is going back to like the late 90s ish, so whatever was, you know, hugely popular at the time, but you know yeah, well for me.
0:02:10 – Speaker 1
For me, I’m dating myself. But I was when I saw the, the metallica one video in like 1989, when it first came out, I was like, oh my god, that’s that’s what I want to do.
I want to be in a warehouse jamming on guitars. That’s exactly what I want to do, like that. That video right there is what made me be like oh yes, and even the Metallica and Justice for All, when I heard it. I don’t know, I’ve said this before in other podcasts, but I think I was kind of a weird kid growing up. I guess there might be other kids too. I remember being like nine years old, it’s like 1988 or whatever. I’m like know nine years old, it’s like 1988 or whatever. I’m like eight, nine years old, maybe 10. And I’m like loving heavy metal. I don’t know where it came from, I don’t know how it happened, but I just the second I heard like Anthrax and Metallica.
I was like oh my God, this stuff is awesome.
0:02:58 – Speaker 2
And I always, I always wanted no, go ahead. Sorry, go ahead, no no no, I was just going to say Justice for All was my favorite Metallica album. It came out the year I was born. There you go. Oh, there you go. Do the math, you can figure out how old I am.
0:03:10 – Speaker 1
There you go. No, that’s cool. Yeah, like I said, it took me a few years I didn’t start playing, but, um, yeah, definitely the metallica. One video was uh what. What made me want to start playing?
0:03:31 – Speaker 2
so yeah, like, uh, I would just to go back to your question about, um, like, what we were listening to, what was like an influence for us. Like both of my parents, they, like my father’s favorite band is metallica nice, my mother she loves like queen and prince and stuff. So like we had good influences coming from you know, absolutely from our parents.
0:03:48 – Speaker 1
So, like it was always, you know rock and metal was it like a musical house, like where your parents always playing like music, like you always had music cranked in the house or anything um?
0:03:58 – Speaker 2
it was mostly us cranking the music. Okay, okay, but my kid, my kids would accuse me of cranking the music actually, um, I do have like very vague memories, like when I was I don’t know, five or six. Uh, we lived like in an old farmhouse that had a stairway, that had like a little balcony thing oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, my mother would be like cleaning the house and blasting cheap trick so I would.
0:04:20 – Speaker 1
I would be playing air guitar in the little concert. Yeah yeah. My kid’s like oh my God, dad, what is this Cattle decapitation? Oh my God.
0:04:30 – Speaker 2
I just saw that. I just saw cattle.
0:04:32 – Speaker 1
I wanted to see that show. It was in Worcester right.
0:04:35 – Speaker 2
Yeah, it was in Worcester.
0:04:36 – Speaker 1
Oh my God, it was so good. Oh man, I went. Rivers of nile plays. Oh yeah, yeah, they’re one of my favorite bands currently, so I haven’t. Decapitations, one of my, one of my new favorite newer, they were so good.
0:04:50 – Speaker 2
Their brand new record is fantastic. Oh yeah, it is sick. They are.
0:04:54 – Speaker 1
They are a sick band like all those guys are like disgusting musical, like musicians they’re amazing.
0:05:00 – Speaker 2
Yeah, like I actually got. I got out of the pit just so I could watch them play. I hear you, no.
0:05:08 – Speaker 1
I can’t imagine, like I can’t imagine, the guitar players are running around because they’re playing some sick.
0:05:14 – Speaker 2
Yeah, they weren’t really going.
0:05:16 – Speaker 1
Yeah, they’re just playing like arpeggios all over the place, it’s like oh my God, they’re still headbanging, but they’re going, you know, wild. Yeah, no, yeah those guys are sick. That’s awesome, so all right. So when you guys were playing guitar, like, how did it get to like, hmm, you know what, instead of playing these things like I want to make these Like, how did you kind of start getting interested in that?
0:05:45 – Speaker 2
Was it like a slow thing or was it all? It was definitely. Uh, it was definitely a slow, like I said, I only I thought well before we started recording. I’ve only really been building for about 10 years, but like I, started playing like, but I have to do the math.
But you know, over 20 years yeah, yeah the like 23, 24 years that I started playing but, like you know, my brother and I we played together. We found, uh, one of my best friends. He’s still one of my best friends. He played drums and the three of us played together for a long, long time.
0:06:10 – Speaker 1
Well, that’s cool, you’re able to do a three piece then.
0:06:12 – Speaker 2
Yeah, we did that for a little while.
We had other people come in and now we had, you know, an extra guitarist or and then a singer and we did some stuff. We didn’t really get. We recorded a few things like semi-professionally we didn’t get too far, but yeah, we did mostly covers and stuff like go eat in cambria taking back sunday, like those kinds of things because they were huge at the time. Yeah, yeah, but uh, yeah to when I got into building this is, I guess this is a not terribly long story, but um, like I, I grew up in connecticut and then got married and moved like an hour and a half away in Massachusetts. So like I moved away from my brother and my family and everybody, so we weren’t really playing together anymore. So like I didn’t really have anybody here that played. So like I, actually I got my wife had bought me an acoustic as a wedding gift right before we got married.
0:07:04 – Speaker 1
That’s nice, the guitar.
0:07:11 – Speaker 2
Yeah, so like you know, I had dabbled with guitar here and there before, so, but I wanted an acoustic because I figured I’d be playing by myself, so I kind of taught myself all of that.
0:07:17 – Speaker 1
How is that going from bass to guitar? I?
0:07:20 – Speaker 2
still play guitar like a bassist. Is that good or bad? Power chords I’m not very good.
0:07:29 – Speaker 1
No, I was just curious, because I, I like you know, people always say like, oh, play the bass because, and it’s not, that’s not true. Like play the bass, it’s easier, has four strings, it’s not. That’s totally wrong.
0:07:40 – Speaker 2
The bass is as easy as you can you want to make it, or as difficult as you want to make it absolutely.
0:07:45 – Speaker 1
Absolutely, I mean, you want to make it Absolutely I mean, if you’re depends on what you’re playing, If you’re playing, like Matt Freeman, bass lines from Rancid. You know it’s not exactly simple. Yeah, I guess. I guess the only thing for me I’m imagining going from bass to guitar, it’s like the string, like the thickness, like it’d be getting used to.
0:08:01 – Speaker 2
That guess more than anything like if I started on bass so that like that wasn’t a big deal. Like I had a harder time like doing chords on guitar because I couldn’t make sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense, when I play power chords, I actually play with my first and fourth finger, really first and third, because I’m just used to playing with my pinky, that’s interesting I know guitars struggle with using their pinky because they just don’t, you know, build up.
0:08:29 – Speaker 1
It’s not used that often. Yeah, yeah.
0:08:31 – Speaker 2
I use my pinky more than almost any other finger.
0:08:34 – Speaker 1
That’s really interesting. That’s interesting, but yeah, it was a little weird going. You could do some cool power chord tricks doing that, if you’re used to that you know, I got a pretty good spread.
0:08:50 – Speaker 2
I got yeah, no, yeah, exactly that’s what I’m saying, yeah, yeah, I can’t remember how many frets I can. Oh, I could probably figure out how many frets I can stretch right now it’s uh, sticks from first to stick, which is a decent stretch.
0:08:58 – Speaker 1
That’s cool, that’s really cool so so get, get back. I like to hear you finish how you started. Oh right, right, uh, where? So?
0:09:07 – Speaker 2
so yeah, like you moved away acoustic moved away, like I wasn’t, you know, playing with anybody, just, you know, just doing like little acoustic things by myself. Whatever I had gotten a different job, obviously I needed a job, but I got to go back a little bit further. My first job I started working for a family friend doing construction stuff, which is like what I had always wanted to do. They built houses. They did everything from the ground up. So I learned a lot of stuff and you know, it scratched a creative itch.
Like, I like building things, like obviously I like creating music, I like doing things. I was always an artistic kid, like I played with legos, you know stuff like that drawing, whatever, any kind of art, yeah, art form, any outlet. I was always into that stuff. So, like I started doing construction stuff with them. But then I moved away and I ended up working for my wife’s uncle doing construction for about a year and that was like the 2008 ish.
0:10:04 – Speaker 1
Um oh, the house crash so like then we had I.
0:10:08 – Speaker 2
I was out of a job because there was no construction work, right, pretty much yeah. But then, um, I ended up getting a job for a cleaning company, okay, that specialized in, uh, kitchen exhaust system cleaning oh, yeah, yeah which is awful yeah, I’ve seen, I’ve seen those jobs.
0:10:27 – Speaker 1
It doesn’t seem uh dirty and disgusting.
0:10:30 – Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, they did, they did other like janitorial style stuff, like cleaning offices and like cleaning grocery store floors, like they kind of yeah, industrial almost kind of things yeah and I worked for them for like eight years. So like I really wasn’t playing anything in like musically, I wasn’t doing anything creative as far as my job.
0:10:51 – Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.
0:10:51 – Speaker 2
Kind of like wearing on me for a while and it’s like I got to the point where it’s like I need I need to do something creative, I need an outlet Because I just I was playing a lot of video games and just not really doing anything no-transcript.
0:11:03 – Speaker 1
Yeah, like that wasn’t cutting it yeah.
0:11:06 – Speaker 2
I mean, it kind of was this is a little offshoot, but like I was playing Halo Reach, oh nice. And it has like a that they called the forge mode, so you can build your own maps with it.
0:11:17 – Speaker 1
Oh, okay, so you were playing the main game.
0:11:20 – Speaker 2
I was still building inside of the main game.
0:11:21 – Speaker 1
That’s funny still building inside of the game.
0:11:22 – Speaker 2
So I did that for a long time. But then it’s like I just wanted to like create something and I don’t remember exactly how it hit me, but I was like my two favorite things are making things and music, so it’s somehow like it hit me I should make the things that make music.
0:11:40 – Speaker 1
I hear it. Yeah, no, I, it’s really cool. Like I, when I talked to Josh and he told me about it, it was like, oh dude, I need to talk to him because I just feel like this day and I mean I could be wrong, but I’m, I’m kind of judging by. I have five kids and like oh wow, I have six beat you on that one oh damn, not that, it’s a competition. You’re the first person dude that was that’s like had more kids, not that five is a lot, but this day and age it is.
You know, five is a lot yeah, this day and age but it’s like all all of my kids are like um, I don’t want to say that, I mean they are, they are curious. So I just you know back in the day, like for you, even though we have like a 10-year difference between you and I, it’s like I just feel like we were a little more curious as kids. You know what I’m saying. Like we mess with shit more, break stuff more. Like you know what I mean, like and like I blame the internet no, exactly, but like what I’m.
What I’m getting at, though, is like with with less curiosity, I guess, is the way to frame this. We’re getting less and less kids that are like oh hey, let me build a guitar, or hey, how do. Like, how do electronics work, or how? You know what I’m saying. Like no kids. Like I’m not that we have radio shack anymore, but it’s like right, no kids going into a place like that, soldering stuff, and like you know what?
I mean so like it’s cool to hear you being like hey, 10 years ago I was like, let’s do this, you know, so like right. That’s why it’s cool to hear story, because I want other people to be like oh wow, that cory dude didn’t know what he’s doing for 20 years. Then he started doing, you know, like I still don’t know what I’m doing well, let’s not, let’s not, I’m making it up yeah, no, no, cut that out.
0:13:19 – Speaker 2
Um, like I was that kid, like I was like taking bicycles and things apart and just just to take them apart and put them back together. I was always doing something like that, you know yeah no, totally like if I had a pen in my hand and I was taking the thing apart and then putting it back together like absolutely so so once you said, once you were like oh, I know, I’m gonna, I’m gonna make things that make the music.
0:13:42 – Speaker 1
How did you well like, how did you get started?
0:13:45 – Speaker 2
it really wasn’t so much that I was just gonna like. I had that idea. I’m like, this is what I’m gonna do. It was. It was also combined with the fact that I wanted an electric guitar but I didn’t have one and I was.
0:13:55 – Speaker 1
I bet you I could build one it was kind of like I bet you I could build it.
0:13:58 – Speaker 2
So it was kind of a combination of those two things like the realization that I should be building them, but I also wanted one.
0:14:04 – Speaker 1
And I was like I bet you I could build one. Necessity is the mother of invention, right? Exactly yeah.
0:14:18 – Speaker 2
So like I, than I could buy one which is not true. I learned that fast, but I wanted to do it. I didn’t care what it was really going to cost me as much as, like, I wanted the experience I wanted to be able to do it. Exactly, so I started.
0:14:31 – Speaker 1
So what’d you do? Like I mean, obviously we had the internet then.
0:14:34 – Speaker 2
So like yeah, I mean on the internet, did you?
0:14:37 – Speaker 1
like, like, what were kind of like, how did you kind of get?
0:14:39 – Speaker 2
started. So I have raging ADHD and an internet connection so I can. If once I get something in my head and I want to research it, I am all in. Yeah, I hear you, dude, I get, I get lost, like I disappear to disappear to people exactly so for like months I was just like researching everything I possibly could, just watching every video I could find on youtube. Like I already have like a background in building things, you know right.
0:15:08 – Speaker 1
So like construction and stuff. So you’re like oh, I can do this.
0:15:11 – Speaker 2
This will be easy. This is that’s not even the same, not even close to being the same thing. As far as building a house and building, you know, like fine furniture and or an instrument, it’s very wildly different. But, um, so where was I going with that? I don’t even remember. We had the. We had we had the internet.
0:15:31 – Speaker 1
I was like did you hop?
0:15:32 – Speaker 2
on the internet or whatever. So, yeah, so I. So I start researching like everything and just like compiling all the stuff that I think I could possibly need. So, um, I actually bought a neck like a pre-made neck, okay, I’ve seen those yeah. Cause like I wasn’t confident in myself enough.
Does he need like a lathe to kind of do it. No, no, you don’t need a lathe. No, okay, okay, very simple tools. Honestly, to make a neck you don’t need much. But um, I just I was wasn’t confident in like cutting the fret slots accurately and getting all that I just, or shaping it.
0:16:05 – Speaker 1
I kind of figured that was harder than it actually buying the neck, yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s like it was a cheap neck and it was fine.
0:16:13 – Speaker 2
It still exists somewhere, as far as I know, because cause I don’t have it, but so? But I think I got plywood. I still have the first body that I ever made.
0:16:23 – Speaker 1
It’s hanging up in my shop. That’s cool.
0:16:25 – Speaker 2
But because it just it wasn’t good.
0:16:28 – Speaker 1
Yeah. But still you want to you want, you want to keep your your first?
0:16:31 – Speaker 2
Yeah, I keep it hanging up there just to remind myself anytime I get down on myself, like ah, you know, like make a mistake or whatever I’m like, I’m not good at this, I should quit, or something.
0:16:40 – Speaker 1
You know, oh, that’s cool.
0:16:43 – Speaker 2
And just remind myself like okay, that’s where I started, this is where I’m at now. Just you know, and this is how we’re dropping.
0:16:50 – Speaker 1
I’m not stupid or whatever. That’s actually really cool that you do that, because, honestly, man, I know, for I’ve talked to someone the other day and they said I need to interject a little bit more about myself. And I am. I mean, everyone says they’re their own worst critic and stuff, but I have to say I’m the worst person, like I am so hard, I am so hard, I am so hard, like as, as encouraging and everything I am to everybody. I’m that hard on myself, yeah.
0:17:24 – Speaker 2
So I don’t encourage myself.
0:17:25 – Speaker 1
I insult the crap out of myself. You know what I mean and it’s the worst thing to do you, to do to you. You know what I’m saying. Like I’m finally learning that. Like I need to stop saying that stuff to myself.
0:17:35 – Speaker 2
You know what I’m saying? Like I’m finally learning that.
0:17:38 – Speaker 1
Like I need to stop saying that stuff to myself Exactly, my inner dialogue is brutal yeah, no, exactly, dude, Exactly so. Like that, that’s really cool. That you have that pinned up to be like no man, like keep stay focused and and don’t beat yourself up over this. Like exactly, yeah, no, it’s really cool.
0:18:03 – Speaker 2
So like, yeah, so I, I after, after, like I was getting to the point of almost getting that one done and just realizing it wasn’t going to happen like I kind of realized how much I enjoyed the experience, so like I immediately started two more. So how?
0:18:08 – Speaker 1
long. It wasn’t one more, it was two. How long did it take you to finish, kind of, or what, like you know, finish the first one and be like, ah, let’s, let’s try it again, like, how long did it take you to finish?
0:18:16 – Speaker 2
well, I still have the second one I ever made and it’s also in my shop, but it’s not hanging up. It’s, uh, kind of in a pile okay, but that one was playable nice, so it took a. It took a while because like a few months at least oh, yeah, yeah, at least a few months because you did everything by hand, right like the building, the bot so you didn’t have and I didn’t have, like, all the right tools, I was just kind of hacking it away.
0:18:42 – Speaker 1
I hear you, yeah.
0:18:42 – Speaker 2
No, I hear you yeah so like I started building two and I have this problem where I get way in over my head on most projects, like, uh, I can’t just build something and be like satisfied with it. I have to like, try something new or do something completely wild and stupid on each one. So like I started building one that was a solid body, and then I started building like a semi-hollow. I’m like I don’t know what I’m doing, but I’m building a semi-hollow, yeah dude.
0:19:12 – Speaker 1
I love semi-hollow, but I have a left-handed Dean Stratty. It’s a Dave Mustaine Flying V.
And actually this one is. It’s one of nine that were made. Oh, wow, and because Dave Mustaine? Because when Dave Mustaine was still being sponsored by Dean, he did this performance with the San Diego Orchestra being sponsored by Dean. He did this performance with the San Diego like orchestra and they, they made him a guitar after, like the Stradius, the, the, the violin maker, so so they that’s why they made the via semi hollow. It’s fricking awesome. I love it. It is an awesome guitar. That is pretty cool. Yeah, did he sign it or anything, cause it’s so it is signed, but signed, but I mean it’s, it’s probably like a, you know, like yeah, he signed it, but not like that, like the date was finished and being made. You know what I’m saying? Like, yeah, they have his signature somehow and they put it on the guitar, you know oh?
0:20:09 – Speaker 2
it was just like a print of his signature yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly exactly I’m sure it’s still worth something to a mega-disc, Right yeah?
0:20:20 – Speaker 1
I more got it because I was just like a semi-hollow V. I fucking need that.
0:20:26 – Speaker 2
That is cool. I don’t think I’ve even heard of a semi-hollow V.
0:20:31 – Speaker 1
Yeah, you need to look it up. It’s called the Dean Strati.
0:20:35 – Speaker 2
It’s just short for Strati Like Stradivarius.
0:20:37 – Speaker 1
Exactly, exactly, yep.
0:20:39 – Speaker 2
Exactly. I’ll have to check that out.
0:20:41 – Speaker 1
But yeah, then I stumbled across. Another company I became a huge fan of within the last few years is G&L.
0:20:49 – Speaker 2
Yeah.
0:20:50 – Speaker 1
And they make a semi-hollow Telecaster body. I want one of those bad like the telecaster style body. I got their they call their telecaster is called the um the sat.
It’s the a sat, the a sat yeah, yeah and uh, they, um, I, I, for some reason I got. I got it a few years ago and I’ll tell you what I feel in love, like I used to be like I’m only playing v’s ever, but then I tried this, this out. This is, I’d almost say, like this asat, it’s, uh, it’s their um tribute series. So it’s just kind of like they’re you know, off the line, you know they’re 600 guitar, but I would almost say these, this thing plays better than the Vs that I have. Like, I just love the neck on it. I love it. When a guitar is neck heavy, I want nothing to do with it. Oh yeah, like, if I put a guitar on and it does a neck dive, I’m handing it back to you.
0:21:49 – Speaker 2
So you’re not an SG guy, then huh.
0:21:51 – Speaker 1
No, why are SG’s neck dive?
0:21:55 – Speaker 2
Oh, I hate SG’s.
0:21:58 – Speaker 1
Oh, because I was gonna you know what I wanted to get one. I want to get one because frank zappa is like my most favorite guitar player in the world. Yeah, and that’s what he played. So I was like I gotta get an sg someday.
0:22:06 – Speaker 2
But now, if they, now if they neck dive, I don’t know if I can get one oh yeah, they’re the worst, they’re that okay, then, because the bodies are so thin, right when the bodies are bodies are thin and the place where the neck meets the body is so far out. It’s just Really. It has a weird balance point. No kidding.
0:22:24 – Speaker 1
Yeah, I hate that, then that sucks Okay.
0:22:28 – Speaker 2
SGs are known for neck dive and Les Pauls are the opposite. They’re just.
0:22:32 – Speaker 1
Well, yeah, those things weigh 30 pounds Right, and all the weight from the back end of it, so now the back side of his fall on the next coming up. So I actually had. I had a less paul standard in the 90s and I kick myself, not not really because I wished I had it for playing, but just I wished I had it, just because you know, less paul standard. But but I play heavy metal and I did back in the day and those things are. So I don’t know if it I’m not a guitar luthier, I don’t know if this is true or not, but to me it felt like because the guitar was so heavy it took away from the slice and the attack of my distortion, if that makes any sense I would say, um, in my opinion, because, uh, what, what really is going to change the sound of an instrument as far as that?
0:23:27 – Speaker 2
and the construction? It’s not the wood, it’s.
0:23:29 – Speaker 1
You know the densities of things, you know it’s right, but yeah, because I always dolleted, yeah because I always have emgs in my my guitars and one of my first guitars I got was like a bc rich warlock and I I’m almost sure if things made out of like plywood or like basewood you know, it’s like crazy light wood. That guitar sounded sick, yeah, but like once I got the les paul’s, like what the hell’s wrong with this thing like a few different things, like, uh, if it had.
0:23:59 – Speaker 2
If the neck is glued in or bolted on or neck through, like those things are going to change your sound more than like the material it’s made out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah like, like I said before, yeah, that brings up the discussion.
0:24:11 – Speaker 1
I was asking you before, like how do you feel about wood? Like you know, can I do? I have to have the mahogany body and this and that, like, what’s your opinion?
0:24:19 – Speaker 2
the only thing that I would say, like you, like we were kind of talking about before, um, the species of wood doesn’t matter so much, but like, what does matter about the wood is um stability and durability. You can. You can make like the first uh tellies were made out of pine. The bodies were made out of pine no kidding, which is fine.
0:24:41 – Speaker 1
That’s interesting.
0:24:43 – Speaker 2
Pine’s very soft.
0:24:44 – Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.
0:24:44 – Speaker 2
And it didn’t really, I bet you. It sounds exactly like every other telly ever made. It’s just, it’s soft and not very durable, and as far as the neck would you want something stable.
0:24:54 – Speaker 1
That’s not breaking Is that? Why is that our maple then?
0:25:00 – Speaker 2
yeah, well, maple is cheap and, you know, readily available, okay, and it’s very, very stable, so and obviously it’s very strong, so it’s not prone to breaking. So like. The reason why leo fender chose the woods he did was because they were readily available and cheap. It’s not because of what they sounded like.
0:25:20 – Speaker 1
Oh, like the cause strats are usually at, like all alder bodies, alder usually, yeah, he got his hands on a crap load of alder and that’s just what they made.
0:25:28 – Speaker 2
That’s interesting. And I don’t know how he got all the rosewood for the fretboards, but I think same thing. Somehow he got his hands on a lot of cheap Rosewood and that’s interesting Then you get the tone snob saying well, that’s how we did it and that’s why it sounds like that and it’s like well, you can’t prove that If you’re running through a. Marshall JCM 800 with, you know, the overdrive cranked all the way. They’re all going to sound the same.
0:25:59 – Speaker 1
Yeah, I mean that. That’s what I’m saying. At the end of the day, you know, it’s like you know I’m blind and I can’t hear the difference. You know what I’m saying. It’s like I hear guitarists, like on YouTube videos, be like, oh no, you need to have this. And I’m like I don’t know. And they’ll play oh, can’t you hear it. I’m like, no, I can’t, it’s in your head, dude. Like you know, that’s my opinion, but Like I, think what they did like companies like Gibson.
0:26:21 – Speaker 2
They kind of romanticized it Like they got their hands on a ton of mahogany Like, oh, the mahogany is going to make a change in sound and like what changes the? Sound is everything in between your signal path, exactly. If you want to change it up a little bit, take out a tone knob or take out you know you have less wire for your signal to travel through. You know, change out your bridge to a different material, or you know, just that’s a little tweaks like that.
0:26:46 – Speaker 1
So even that would make a difference.
0:26:47 – Speaker 2
Huh, like the, the material made out of the bridge the sound of your instrument is the sum of all its parts you know yeah yeah, but like, if you add, you know, a different pedal into your signal chain, it’s going to change your sound slightly, you know yeah, no, totally every single thing you do will change your sound yeah, I saw one video speaking of pedals the other day.
0:27:07 – Speaker 1
It’s like this guitarist was like showing his pedal board. He’s like, yeah, you know, and I have this one. He’s like I don’t really know what it does. He’s like and I don’t use the pedal like I think I’m supposed to. But he’s like look what it does to my guitar tone and you could hear the difference.
0:27:25 – Speaker 2
And you’re like yeah, dude, you know what you know. What I would say to all those tone snobs is who cares? Shut up and learn how to play it better. Like nobody cares, cares. Nobody in the audience at your show is going like, oh, that’s a great tone. I wish I wonder how he got that tone. No, they’re like wondering how you’re playing, that they don’t care what it sounds like secretly I cannot think of myself secretly, though.
0:27:51 – Speaker 1
Cory, I’m doing that. I’m like, oh damn that. I mean I. I am the musician, that is always I. I a preset on my amp. It’s called tone demon because you’re always chasing the perfect tone. Yeah.
0:28:05 – Speaker 2
I mean when you’re sitting in your, your, you know, your studio, your bedroom or whatever, playing by yourself. Yeah, like I’ll sit here and I’ll tweak knobs the entire time just trying to get that tone, but it’s like if you’re playing in a band setting, it doesn’t matter there’s a point where it’s like alright, dude, you just need to play now exactly, absolutely work on your sweet picking. Work on something else, like don’t worry about your tone so much, just play it spend some more time practicing were you worried at all when, like, like, did you start tearing apart guitars, like, cause?
0:28:43 – Speaker 1
I’m imagining? Like people are like, oh, I don’t want to touch pickups. I don’t know what the hell I’m doing. Like people are probably afraid of like breaking shit and stuff you know like.
0:28:51 – Speaker 2
I did. I got into doing like little repair stuff just so I could learn more like the same thing with like tearing apart bicycles, you know. It was like I found some friends that were willing to let me. You know they had some instruments that I could, if you could, set it up or, you know, attempt it Sure. So like they just gave me some stuff and I messed around with it and just started learning how to set everything up and just do little repairs and figured out how to wire stuff, that’s cool.
I had a lot of very a lot of friends with a lot of faith in me. Yeah, yeah, no, totally how to wire stuff. That’s cool. I had a lot of, very a lot of friends with a lot of faith in me.
0:29:24 – Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, no totally so.
0:29:27 – Speaker 2
Yeah, I just started doing repair work and tearing stuff apart, like I have, um, a squire strat. That is basically a frankenstrat, because I’ve just done, I’ve just so much different stuff to it right, just just experimental exactly you know, yeah no, totally so like kind of a back, kind of back to like the woods on guitar stuff.
0:29:50 – Speaker 1
So in your opinion then, would it be it’s more? Does it more comes down to almost like the electronics in a sense, then like absolutely yeah.
0:29:57 – Speaker 2
It’s like, yeah, if you take your pickups and you like raise or lower them, that’s going to change your sound too, like if you think you have a bad your guitar has bad tone. There are little tweaks you can do to change it, but it’s. It’s probably not your, your guitar. I mean, if we’re talking acoustics, then the wood matters, you know right, because it’s you’re playing things down to very specific thicknesses and you need it to resonate and do certain things.
Yeah, then it matters, because it’s got its own amplifier built in. It is you know it has to do it.
0:30:27 – Speaker 1
Speaking of acoustics, there’s a there. I don’t think he’s open anymore, but there’s this guitar little guitar store in my town in Connecticut and he was an. He was an older dude and he like started the guitar store because he like retired. Something happened and he’s like, ah shit, I need to like make money again or whatever. So he opened up this guitar store and he would give classes on um, building your own acoustic guitar, kind of like from scratch. And so I was in this store, his store, one day, and we were talking. I was like, oh really, that’s, that’s cool’s cool. And he, he actually showed me a like a, an acoustic guitar that was like kind of half built already and it was really cool. When he showed me like on the inside, he was like, oh, do you see these right here? And I was like, yeah, he’s like that sets like the, the um, like the sustainability within the guitar and stuff, like no shit and he’s like yeah, yeah exactly.
He’s like if you add a subtract, this, this is gonna give it more bass or more trebles. Like no kidding, I didn’t realize that.
0:31:29 – Speaker 2
I was like that’s why I don’t build acoustics it was wicked.
0:31:33 – Speaker 1
It was wicked intricate. You, you wouldn’t, you wouldn’t realize, like all that was on the inside of it. You know what I mean, like I, I don’t know the professional acoustic luthiers.
0:31:44 – Speaker 2
They’re, they’re wild like the. They’re just in there with like little hand planes and taking off little shavings and that changes the instrument like completely just getting the bracing, just right, and all that stuff.
0:31:55 – Speaker 1
It’s, it’s wild yeah, he had this, uh, his own little custom. He used like thousands probably of like these elastic bands. Yeah, he’s like he’s like this is of like these elastic bands and he’s like he’s like this is my own little setup. I came up with it. He showed me and that whole elastic band set up is what he used to keep everything together, like when he was like, you know, putting out like the body of the, the outer of the I don’t know what you’d call it Like the outer edge of the main body. He would, he would use the elastics to keep all that together.
0:32:23 – Speaker 2
I was like that’s freaking cool. Yeah, like the binding and stuff like that. Yeah, exactly exactly.
0:32:25 – Speaker 1
I was like that’s freaking cool. He’s like, yeah, normally you need like this wicked expensive machine, but he’s like I figured a way around it. I was like that’s awesome.
0:32:46 – Speaker 2
Yeah, I’ve seen some other people like that have gotten into using elastic bands, like really heavy-duty thick ones, on like the fretboard, onto the neck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you’re getting so like such different and even pressure by wrapping it all around there. But I don’t know, I have clamps, I’m just gonna keep clamping it, yeah, like I don’t know what.
0:32:57 – Speaker 1
So have you built bases and guitars then? Um, or have you only done guitars?
0:33:03 – Speaker 2
I have um, I haven’t finished a bass yet, but I actually have one that’s right behind me here. That is mostly done okay um, I have two of them.
0:33:13 – Speaker 1
One is much further along than the other, but uh, yeah, so you do all your stuff by hand. You were saying before right, you don’t use the cnc machinery.
0:33:21 – Speaker 2
Yeah, I don’t have a cnc yet yeah, that must be.
0:33:25 – Speaker 1
So like, what’s that, like you know, working on like a body? So, like, what kind of tools do you use to do that?
0:33:31 – Speaker 2
like a planer routers. Yeah, like I work in a in a, you know fairly I’m using air quotes fairly high end. Uh, wood shop now okay okay, so I have access to a lot of really nice big tools, so but, um, like, for you know, just breaking down material. But I have a decent shop in my house now after years of compiling tools. But yeah, it’s like you know, bandsaws and routers mostly, mostly routers. They’re the, they’re the main. Yeah, that does that.
0:34:02 – Speaker 1
Star of the show yeah, I was gonna say because that, because that that does like the um parts that put the pickups in and stuff too right yeah, they’re routing out cavities and stuff like that and like the pocket for the neck, even the shape of the body.
0:34:13 – Speaker 2
It’s like um, mostly routing that’s interesting.
0:34:17 – Speaker 1
so could I I, because here’s I was talking about this before, like before the interview like I was interested in getting to like guitar, uh, luthiering and stuff Do you think a blind person could build a guitar like that?
0:34:32 – Speaker 2
Like, honestly I have been thinking about it ever since you said it. I’m like I have. No, I like I wouldn’t, because I people teaching you because I I cause one thing.
0:34:42 – Speaker 1
I was thinking, I was like was like, oh man, if they have like um the um, damn it. Like the templates for the guitar bodies and stuff. I was like would I be able to trace it? Like, I was just wondering, like, because I see there’s even templates for like guitar cavities, like for the pickups and stuff and all. So I was like, would I, could I trace it?
0:35:00 – Speaker 2
I was like I don’t know you know, I don’t even know man like I. It’s so hard being you know like it’s obviously a visual thing. Yeah, I’m a visual person like that’s how I. It’s hard to say like you’re a visual person to somebody who can’t see but like I think it’s you, I don’t know man, there’s just spinning sharp blades and if I well, I hear you like that I don’t know, I don’t know what it entails.
That’s what I’m saying, like because yeah, I don’t know, it would be catchy yeah, no, I yeah. I definitely wouldn’t want to be like risking fingers and using like a using like a bandsaw, for instance, which I used to like rough cut out stuff. Like you’re, you’re following pencil lines pretty closely, so like yeah that’s something you’d be able to do. Yeah, no, I, I hear you, I hear you no, I.
0:35:54 – Speaker 1
I thought it would have been a funny and interesting. I mean, you could definitely carve a neck.
0:35:58 – Speaker 2
You could definitely do that, because that’s mostly by feel like I. You know, you’re watching it to see how much you know you’re taking off, or whatever but that’s. It’s mostly by feel, as long as you knew you had some parameters where you knew you had to stop Exactly that that’s what I was thinking about with the body.
0:36:14 – Speaker 1
We’re cutting it Like I would know. You know, I don’t know. Like I said, there’s a reason why I haven’t done it yet. Yeah.
0:36:21 – Speaker 2
Like there’s a reason why I haven’t done it yet. Yeah, Like the power tools thing that would make me nervous for you. You know, I hear you.
0:36:27 – Speaker 1
No, I get it, I get it.
0:36:29 – Speaker 2
Like I said, I thought it would be an interesting concept of like a blind guy you know building, you could definitely do some of the neck work for sure, I think I could Worst case scenario, I could, I think I could assemble a guitar. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, you know what I mean.
0:36:45 – Speaker 1
Like if I had a neck and a body, I don’t know if I could do the soldering. Maybe I don’t know.
0:36:49 – Speaker 2
You know what you should get is try the kits.
0:36:55 – Speaker 1
Dude, I did buy one, and my friend still has it. We were split years ago. He still has it though. But you know what’s funny?
0:37:06 – Speaker 2
It’s a seven string sg body. So it sounds like I’m not gonna want it. No, you’re probably not. Yeah, then the neck is even bigger, so it’s even heavier yeah, oh man so like yeah I feel like a kit would be ideal for you yeah, no, totally I should.
0:37:21 – Speaker 1
I should try it again, cause it would be cool to like be like hey, I put this together.
0:37:25 – Speaker 2
You know what I mean.
0:37:26 – Speaker 1
Like, um, so like, all right, someone’s listening to you and like, all right, this dude Corey’s building bases and guitars or whatever, like how, how do? How do I get started Like like, how do like, where do they go to maybe find wood? Or like you know like what, what would be the? The some of the things that they should like start looking at to like put something. Actually, would a guitar kit be a good thing for someone? Like for somebody?
0:37:49 – Speaker 2
that wants to, just because at least I mean.
0:37:52 – Speaker 1
I mean, you’re not, I never did you’re not building like the actual, but at least you can assemble the guitar and get like a taste of it that way yeah, I would say a kit is a great starting point.
0:38:02 – Speaker 2
I I wish I had done that. I didn’t, because you know I like to jump in the deep end.
0:38:11 – Speaker 1
Well, I mean, 10 years ago were they making guitar. I mean I don’t know, oh, yeah, Okay.
0:38:17 – Speaker 2
Those have been around a long time. I think those have been around since, like the 80s at least.
0:38:21 – Speaker 1
Really Okay, I wasn’t sure. I mean they’re much easier to find now. Yeah, it seems like they’re a little more readily available now, like, yeah, they’re not.
0:38:28 – Speaker 2
I mean you could go hop on amazon and probably spend like 99 and get yourself a like a strat or a tele kit, yeah, yeah, but like those are mass produced, you know, in china and they’re not nice yeah, as long as you don’t have like huge expectations for them to be nice if you just want the experience to put it together and get a taste of it. It’s a cheap, easy thing to do because you don’t need any major power tools. You could probably get away with screwdrivers.
0:38:59 – Speaker 1
Exactly because everything’s already cut the frets are already in the neck.
0:39:03 – Speaker 2
It’s already done.
0:39:04 – Speaker 1
You just need to kind of put it together. Really what?
0:39:06 – Speaker 2
you need to learn how to do is like level the frets and clean those up and then put it together, because there’s no way they’re kind of they’re going to come level.
0:39:14 – Speaker 1
Okay, okay.
0:39:15 – Speaker 2
But like that’s another thing I want to do is like get a kit and do a review at some point.
0:39:22 – Speaker 1
Well, actually actually build it and review it yeah, actually, speaking of that you’re mentioning, you’re gonna start a youtube channel like, yeah, let’s, let’s talk about that, because I, honestly, this is a genius idea and I right, because that was that was before we started recording. Yeah, I really think you’re gonna do well with this. Honestly, dude, I I think the people once they start finding your videos, because I don’t want to say too much, because I want you to say what you’re doing.
0:39:42 – Speaker 2
Right. So yeah, I’ll start from the top on that one again, just for the people that haven’t heard the story yet. Yeah, so like I had been watching these reviews, so you’ll go on YouTube and you’ll find guys that buy like the cheapest guitar they can find on Amazon or whatever right, or eBay, or just they’ll just find cheap guitars and do reviews on them and reviews on them and that’s it, and they’re usually oh yeah, it’s a cheap guitar and yeah, well, it plays like whatever.
Yeah, exactly, it sounds like crap, it plays like crap, whatever, or it’s, you know, surprisingly decent for its price and I was like that’s fine. But I could do that review these guitars, find the problems and show you how to fix it, because most of the time, if it just needs like basic fixes or setups, there’s ways to get around those things and do it with like basic household tools instead of. You know, I have gauge nut files for filing down. You know the nut for the strings and I’ve spent hundreds of dollars on those files.
If you’re buying a cheap guitar, you’re not, you know, you’re not going to drop three, four hundred dollars on very specific files that you’re never going to use again. But there are other things you can do to do that and I will show you how to do that. So, like, like I was telling you, I have a guitar sitting in front of me right now that I just bought like a week or two ago on amazon and I’m in the process of doing my very first video and, um, like, I was kind of blown away by how nice this thing is. I’m not going to tell you what it is yet because you’re going to have to watch the video exactly, and then I’ll show you like.
But like I didn’t, I was kind of blown away like all I have to really do to this thing is like a basic setup and for the people listening if they don’t like what is a setup, if they don’t know like what it would. So like that would be setting your, your action for your strings.
0:41:25 – Speaker 1
You know intonation, that kind of stuff, just like little, little tiny tweaks here and there just to get it to play more comfortably because um and you made a good point like these guitar, whether or not they come from china, whatever, if you’re paying, let’s say, 200 bucks on a guitar, there’s no way, no way, they they spend time setting it up, they put it together and they put in the box like exactly they.
0:41:49 – Speaker 2
They intentionally, they intentionally set the action high on these so they don’t have to level the frets.
0:41:55 – Speaker 1
So that way you play it, you don’t get any dead. No fret buzz or anything like that.
0:41:59 – Speaker 2
Exactly yeah they’ll level out the fretboard, they’ll press in the frets and then they’ll just ship it. You know it’s gone.
0:42:05 – Speaker 1
So like this one has. Guitars are like they’re. They skip the fine tuning on them, exactly. Yeah, like that’s the whole thing.
0:42:15 – Speaker 2
so if, like this guitar, this video is going to be easy. It’s just going to be like here’s a quick setup and I’m going to highly recommend if you’re a beginner to get this guitar or you know just somebody that wants a beater or something to mod or something you can gig with. That’s not really expensive. So if you break it or it gets stolen, you’re not worried about it. This is a good instrument for those kinds of people. So that’s the whole idea. I’ll review it, I’ll show you how to fix it, recommend it or not, you know one way or the other. I think I’ve been watching so many videos on YouTube and like starting a channel and they’re everybody’s like well, you know, find your niche and find you know the thing, find your audience, and they’re like that’s the biggest hurdle. I’m like I already have that, so maybe this will take off yeah, I’ve already figured out exactly what I’m doing.
I’m not just like some random vlogger that has no idea, like just wants to start a channel yeah, and that was never the goal, you know, and honestly, you have even more of it.
0:43:12 – Speaker 1
Uh, you really drill down in your niche because there there are, like you said, there are those guitar like guitar player channels that are just like, ah, you know, review this amazon guitar, this one or that, but you’re, you take it a step further, where it actually becomes a useful video like, right, exactly, I want to be able to give something to the community.
0:43:32 – Speaker 2
It’s not just like here’s some mindless entertainment right, and not not only that though, but indirectly, you’re going to be teaching people how to do like intonation, how to set exactly I’m saying like so yeah, so you’re, they’re going to be learning stuff as as they go along yeah, I mean, let’s face it, most guitarists are broke as it is, so they’re not going to pay somebody to go. If you’re buying 159 guitar, there’s chance. The chances are you don’t have enough money to pay somebody to set this thing exactly yeah, but you’re gonna what am I?
0:44:03 – Speaker 1
and you’re gonna spend as much setting it up as you did exactly exactly so, like one of my.
0:44:10 – Speaker 2
One of my philosophies I guess you could call it is that there really aren’t any bad guitars. There’s just poorly set up ones, not you know, I hear you unless like the neck is twisted or something’s broken or just like something is really really bad. Yeah, even a hundred dollar guitar can be really nice if you know you take the time to as long as you know, barring any craziness.
It should be uh, it should be playable yeah, like the thing is for a lot of, for a lot of beginners, it’s like they’ll pick up an instrument and it’ll fight them and they’ll have a hard time playing it. And they just don’t up an instrument and it’ll fight them and they’ll have a hard time playing it and they just don’t realize that you can have it set up and make it play nicer, so like they end up putting it down because they’re not enjoying the experience yeah, like the action is insanely high and like, wow, this sucks and it’s like your fingers it hurts and right not fun and like you’re not getting good sounds out of it because all all the stuff is fighting against you.
And it’s like like I was telling you before, like I didn’t, when I was learning how to play 12 or 13, I had no idea you could do any of those things. And you know, I had a Squire P bass that was set up like garbage and I learned how to play it, but but that was, you know, through sheer determination.
0:45:22 – Speaker 1
Right, exactly.
0:45:27 – Speaker 2
And you know, through sheer determination, right exactly, and you know the internet didn’t really exist on a large scale at that point. So it’s like go outside or go play your instrument you know, yeah, no, totally so but like for yeah, new, new, like beginners that want to pick it up, like, if you can afford it, bring it to somebody, have somebody set it up, because it will make your experience so much better. Or, you know, watch my YouTube channel and learn how to do it yourself Exactly.
0:45:52 – Speaker 1
Well, honestly, that’s another thing you can be. You could do too is not only show people how to like touch up, like the, the, the inexpensive guitars. You could do quick, like five minutes, seven minute videos or whatever. Like hey, just how to quickly do blah, blah or you know whatever exactly.
0:46:07 – Speaker 2
Yeah, like I don’t want to limit myself to just doing, just being the review repair guy, like I would like to be able to do little tips and little tricks, and yeah, absolutely anything like music related, I wouldn’t.
I would like to like interview musicians, or you know, yeah totally just I don’t want it to just be that like I would like the channel to grow, but like this is where I’m starting, this is going to be the roots of it. You know, absolutely I would love to do like album reviews, like not that people would really come for that, but like if it was there, you know well, yeah, I mean, if you’re, if I want to be anything under the music umbrella, you know like, yeah, as long as it fits into guitar related music, yeah, and I’m.
I feel like that’s what I would like to do.
0:46:50 – Speaker 1
But yeah, I mean, uh, corey, it was, uh, it was, it’s awesome having you on. The reason why I wanted to have you on too is just because, like I mostly interview, uh, musicians or people in bands or whatever, and like that, at least currently, my goal is to have on, you know, other creative people within kind of the music industry or whatever, and like the point of it is to show people like, look, even though you might not be playing an instrument, you could make them like there’s lots of other creative outlets out there, because I I would imagine there’s people that are like, oh, I can’t play guitar, so like I can’t be involved like in the you know like in the music industry or whatever like.
0:47:31 – Speaker 2
There’s so many different avenues in the music industry. You don’t have to play the instrument. You could be a sound engineer, you know right, absolutely, you’d be doing something. You could be a lighting engineer for a band you know it doesn’t have to be musically instrument related or whatever. You don’t have to be talented in that way.
0:47:48 – Speaker 1
There’s so many things yeah, no, and I also. I love, uh, just the grit that you have too. Like you know, we need more, more people like that, where it’s like I’m not gonna let uh, let something stop me. Like, like you said, with playing your bass I learned how to play through sheer determination that’s kind of.
0:48:07 – Speaker 2
That’s kind of who I am. It’s like I just, if I’m gonna do something, I’m gonna do it I hear you dude.
0:48:12 – Speaker 1
No, like, like I said, it’s inspiring to hear, to hear you, uh, to be like that and uh, um, yeah, I just hope people listening are encouraged by your stories. Is there anything else you like, wanted to add or you know? Say, get a chance to say something else. You didn’t get a chance to say or talk about anything else I’m I’m sure there probably was, but it’s. I’m gonna blank out immediately now now that you’re on the spot, I gotta, I gotta come up with something exactly but do you mean?
I’ll put a link. Say anything I say anything.
0:48:43 – Speaker 2
I would say like if I can do this, so can you. You can do anything. If you just try, you can do it. Like don’t doubt yourself, don’t listen to the haters.
0:48:52 – Speaker 1
Just do it. No, seriously, even though I say I don’t like saying it, but it is true. It’s just do it Like Nike said, it’s like you’re the only one holding yourself back.
0:49:01 – Speaker 2
It’s like you’re the only, you’re the only one, holding yourself back Exactly as cheesy and cliche as it is, it’s true.
0:49:07 – Speaker 1
Yeah, no, it really is. You’re the only person.
0:49:09 – Speaker 2
It’s that voice in your head saying you can’t do it or all these people are going to you know, hate what you do.
0:49:14 – Speaker 1
Like don’t listen to it, nobody cares, actually, yeah no, that’s a good way to come back around to kind of you know, when you’re you’re your own worst critic. You need to just silence that person. You know like we need to get better at telling that person get yourself a good friend to like bounce things off of.
0:49:29 – Speaker 2
I’ve got a couple of people like that’s a big help. That’s a big help like people that I know will not. You know they, they will give me straight answers if I say be brutally honest, they will, yeah, like, get yourself a friend like that, because you don’t want to surround yourself with like yes, men that are like, oh no, that’s great. That’s great because that’s not helpful yeah, no, it is, it isn’t.
0:49:50 – Speaker 1
But yeah, like get.
0:49:51 – Speaker 2
I’ve always tried to be that friend for a lot of people. I don’t think most people appreciate that, like because I’m brutally honest with my music, my musician friends like yeah listen to this song and I’ll be like, well, you know, and they’re like, why did I even bother asking you? Like you, you know what I’m gonna tell you yeah, no, exactly exactly like. Be that friend for people and find yourself one of those friends. You know that’s what you need.
0:50:16 – Speaker 1
Everybody needs that yeah, and I mean, I just thought of this too, like if you want to get into, you know, fixing guitars or building whatever, there’s got to be someone that you know or like someone has like a busted guitar in their cloth you know what I mean, oh yeah, there’s, there’s.
0:50:31 – Speaker 2
Oh, everyone has that uncle or whatever like look on on, you know facebook marketplace oh, yeah, yeah if you, if you are constantly watching that like I’ve seen like very expensive guitars that people had no idea what it was, they’re just throwing it on there for you know 100 bucks or whatever, just to get rid of it, like yeah, or you know yard sales, whatever people or estate sales, like that’s the way to go. If you absolutely it’s out there if you want to just get your hands on something, yeah, I’m sure you have a family member that’s got one just sitting in the closet yeah, I guess you want to get into it, yeah it comes back down to that just do it, I guess.
0:51:06 – Speaker 1
Then right, like, yeah, you just need the, the resources are out there. You know, we have youtube, you have uh, power tools, so exactly, yeah no, that beg, borrow and steal tools from everybody.
0:51:19 – Speaker 2
You know exactly damn it.
0:51:21 – Speaker 1
Just go out into the forest and chop a tree down like yeah, and then you’re gonna learn how to dry out the wood, and all that too the first couple guitars I built um. I think I bought wood at like home depot, like they sell poplar and maple, like that’s that’s perfectly fine, that’s really funny some people say, oh, don’t do that, that’s that.
0:51:41 – Speaker 2
The wood’s not good, it’s fine, it’ll be good. See that that’s funny when it comes. You know the people that that, that’s that.
0:51:45 – Speaker 1
The wood’s not good, it’s fine, it’ll be good. See that, that’s funny. When it comes, you know the people that say that those are the ones that aren’t doing shit you know, I mean the people that are like oh, don’t do that.
0:51:53 – Speaker 2
Oh, you can’t yeah, don’t, yeah, okay. Well, let’s see the guitar you built.
0:51:56 – Speaker 1
Okay, exactly like exactly I see the song you wrote, guy, I can’t stand those people that are quick to be like it’s fine, fine, if you’re going to credit, you know not, or whatever, give me some constructive criticism, but like you have to be able to do it coming from. You know what I mean. Like, yeah, I’m not, I’m not going to let someone criticize. Like, if you’re like into working out or whatever, and you have some like huge, fat, slobbery guy telling you, you know, like I’m not going to listen, you know what.
0:52:23 – Speaker 2
I mean, I heard, I heard somebody the other day I think it might have been on youtube or something and they were talking about the haters. It’s like, yeah, you’ll see the haters in the comments, but you know where I don’t see them at the bank yeah, exactly, you know what I’m saying.
0:52:36 – Speaker 1
Exactly like uh, so yeah, so, so don’t let, don’t let people like that be around you. You know exactly, don’t let the negativity yeah like because you do.
0:52:46 – Speaker 2
You just be yourself and do what you enjoy. Like if you’re enjoying the process of doing something, even if it does truly suck. If you’re writing music and you’re writing it for the enjoyment, who cares?
0:52:57 – Speaker 1
exactly, dude, there’s a market for everything everywhere.
Somebody out there will like it you know what I love that you said that, because that’s one of the biggest things that I say is, like, if you have this thing, this like kind of burning thing inside of you, you need to do it, because you’re the only person that has this particular idea or this particular desire. Yeah, and there’s going to be someone else out there that lines up with what you know what I’m saying. So it’s like you need to like listen to your gut and just do it.
0:53:24 – Speaker 2
Exactly Just do it and be genuine about it and that will come through, and everybody loves it when somebody’s genuine, absolutely, absolutely. If they can see that you love what you’re doing, they will watch, or you know, they’ll follow it or whatever you know.
0:53:40 – Speaker 1
Yeah, absolutely.
0:53:40 – Speaker 2
Because like everything in this world is fake right now. Yeah, because like everything in this world is fake right now. You look on Instagram or Facebook everybody nobody posts. You know the bad parts of their life. It’s always like look at my new car, look at this, you know.
0:53:50 – Speaker 1
Dude, I was just going to say that, like everyone posts their like A game or whatever, Like no one’s going to post like just got my third DUI.
0:54:05 – Speaker 2
Yeah exactly With, like their, you know, selfie exactly. Yeah, I mean some people do and those, those people are special, but but yeah, it’s like everybody’s posting their a game, like you said, and it’s like the internet’s not real. Nothing out there is real. So I do genuine be honest and people will. You’ll you tracked what you put out there, you know?
0:54:25 – Speaker 1
Hey, you know what? That’s a really great good place to end right there. Corey, I appreciate your time, I appreciate your work and, well, I’ll put links to your YouTube channel. Do you have like a website for your guitar stuff and everything? I’ll put links. I don’t have any web.
0:54:39 – Speaker 2
I don’t have a website yet. I do have a Facebook and Instagram. Right now they’re both CRC guitars, okay.
0:54:47 – Speaker 1
Perfect, it’s.
0:54:47 – Speaker 2
CRC underscore guitars on Instagram and just CRC guitars on Facebook. Okay, okay, there’s like another CRC guitars, but he’s like in England, it’s like CRC Guitar Academy or something like that?
0:54:59 – Speaker 1
Oh, okay, he teaches you how to play. I see, okay, okay to play.
0:55:01 – Speaker 2
I see, okay, okay, so like I’m not that guy, but yeah, yeah but awesome my. My youtube channel isn’t it’s. It’s live, but there’s nothing on it yet yeah, yeah yeah, well, don’t worry about that you’ll probably have, uh, yeah if everybody checks out my, uh, my other social medias, I’ll be posting when that goes yeah, that makes sense, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I’m gonna be forcing it down everybody’s throat there you go awesome. Well, cory do watch it, whether you like it or not well, dude.
0:55:30 – Speaker 1
Thanks for your time, man, I appreciate everything thanks for having me on. This is fun yeah, no, it was great having you on and, uh, we’ll have to have you on again. Uh, hopefully sooner than later. Um, yeah, for sure, but get you updated when all the cool stuff is happening absolutely, absolutely all right, everyone.
0:55:41 – Speaker 2
So thank you for listening everybody. Thank you for downloading. Yeah, for sure, I’ll get you updated when all the cool stuff is happening Absolutely, absolutely All right, everyone.
0:55:46 – Speaker 1
So thank you for listening everybody, thank you for downloading and don’t forget to embrace your storm.