thank you for joining. Embrace your Storm and this is a special episode for you. I’m excited. It’s an honor and privilege that we don’t need to get into any current introduction to who this is. So, Michael Berryman, thanks for coming on.
0:01:16 – Speaker 3
Oh, it’s my pleasure. Thanks for the invite.
0:01:19 – Speaker 2
Michael, first of all, you’re going to be at the Tornado Music Awards, You’re going to Film Festival and we can’t wait to have you there. It’s going to be a great time and I thank you so much, first of all, for participating with the event.
0:01:31 – Speaker 3
My pleasure, thank you.
0:01:33 – Speaker 2
So there’s a lot of things I’d like to talk to you about, because Tornado is all about creativity and overcoming trauma using creativity, and your career has been very interesting, but I’d like to start off with. You were born and you, right out of the gate, had some hurdles to overcome. Do you mind explaining to the audience? You know you’re born premature and I’m not even going to try to repeat. You know the ailment that you have, so would you mind explaining what it is?
0:02:04 – Speaker 3
Absolutely Back, sir. I real quick. My father was a Navy surgeon, the test is a third Marines. After they dropped the bomb in Nagasaki, my father, being a brain surgeon, neurologist, was sent to ground zero and he was doing well looking at the results, how the bomb affected, the human casualties etc. I remember him sending me a picture of shadows on cement walls of baked rice, what used to be human beings. I’m not a big fan of war, armed conflict etc. I understand history. I understand human nature. Bottom line is, in my opinion, we never should have split the atom or learn how to make those weapons. Ever. They’ve served us no purpose whatsoever, in my opinion. Some people say, well, it’s short into war. Yeah, my real quick house is cut to the chase. You know, don’t I love?
0:03:14 – Speaker 2
hearing you talk, so keep going.
0:03:16 – Speaker 3
Don’t mess with my family, friends or neighbors. If you’re not a good person, then just stay away and don’t cause grief. If you cause grief, there’s going to be repercussions.
0:03:27 – Speaker 1
We’re all in this game together.
0:03:30 – Speaker 3
I think it’s more important for people to realize that we live on a finite planet. I’ve studied science my entire life. Bottom line is we’re on a class nine beautiful blue planet and it’s almost dead. You don’t believe me, I don’t care. Bottom line is I’ve talked to people that worked with Cousteau physicists, people who know what they’re talking about. We need to get our act together.
0:04:08 – Speaker 2
So, with your dad being at the ground zero there, that’s where you’re kind of leading to my father.
0:04:16 – Speaker 3
Well, when my father came back from Nagasaki, I was created, so to speak. We didn’t know that his DNA was radiated, of course, and causes genetic malformations and no getting so. I was born premature birth 1948, about two months early. I was underweight. I had a. My coranium skull did not have the fissures, it was solid fused. The brain is growing, the skull is not growing, that’s going to be a pressure building.
I would have gone blind and then it would have killed me the ends of my toes and my fingers on my knuckles. The teeth I had in my head were malformed. They had to be removed. I have had dentures since I was four years old. Wow, my dermis skin. I don’t perspire, I cannot perspire. I had from you?
0:05:26 – Speaker 2
How do you deal with that? I would grow up as a kid if you can’t sweat.
0:05:31 – Speaker 3
You have to not get overheated or else you get heat stroke. Go to the emergency room and every time that happens it shortens your life and the attention It’ll kill you.
0:05:39 – Speaker 2
Wow, so that must have been a crazy childhood then.
0:05:44 – Speaker 3
Well, for more than one reason. One of the other situations I had to deal with was that from my my orbs, where my eyes are, to my lower jaw, the mandible, that part of my face, bones were underdeveloped I had. I went to Children’s Hospital. Whatever, whatever age it is when you’re in the first grade, I went to Children’s Hospital. My father was a brain surgeon. He ground up and watch. He didn’t wrench on my head because he’s you know ethics and they literally where the fissures would normally be, where the plates grow and expand and then form a skull In normal shaped skull and room for the brain. They drew lines and cut on the lines through my skull and plates, like tectonic plates on instance, and then they bandaged it all up and they grew and knit back together.
As very fortunate that I had good vision and that that worked over the years. I Around the age of 30. I Been to a lot of doctors. I yeah, I had a haircut when they shaved my head for the surgery, for the scobery constructed surgery. They hair didn’t grow back. Okay, no big whoo. The Areas under my arms were normally a sweat glands, basis glands and hair follicles. Those were all underdeveloped and and Not normal so I would get infections and abscesses.
I had major surgery twice where they opened up under my arms for no kidding the entire length and basically took a sandwich and, you know, did a big swing and took out as much tissue as possible and and then I had to happen twice. In my lifetime, plus, I’ve had over 300 Carvings. Sometimes an abscess would grow inside of the scar tissue, which is a lot to find.
0:07:55 – Speaker 2
Oh man I.
0:07:57 – Speaker 3
Was working on a film with Brandon Lee called crow and I met a gentleman by the name of Paul Newman who was doing hot sucker proxy and and he invited me to meet with a gentleman in Florida for a group Paul is part of, a group called the bogey Creek Organization, which was Paul Newman, arnold’s general Swartz cough and Arnold Palmer, and so the Newman products and those gentlemen raised money for the Florida facial cranial society and also other groups and organizations that find parents with children that have facial cranial anomalies and, like the Shriners and other wonderful organizations, they dial in the best surgeons and reconstructed surgeons and invite them to a camp where the children can relax and be.
They can be Screwed nice by the positions they pay for everything. They even have people house at their homes so the entire family can be when the child is getting their Evaluations. That being said, when I was, when I was young, I had issues with Society in the sense that I didn’t look normal Cat calls pointing, teasing things of that nature. It’s never a lot of fun. There’s a lot of, you know, callous people out there in the world and, oh yeah, people that learn that type of behavior learn from their parents. So when the kids were being mean to me, I would. If the parent was present, I would approach the parent and give them a lecture.
This and I’m talking about it since I was 10 years old. So I would tell the parents, your bad parents, these children, they don’t know boundaries. This is unfair and hurtful behavior. It causes people to have a More of a burden that is required to go on with their life, dealing with issues that are in the local news. For instance, now I had a friend who had polio and His legs had metal braces on the outside because they didn’t function very well and his his hands would flex at the wrist in a very awkward manner. He did difficulty using his fingers to open a Jar, for instance. So when I saw someone I saw, I remember the first time I saw someone trip him and laugh, and that’s when I realized I had a temper. So I went to the principal’s office that’s probably in third or fourth grade at the time and I was told that it’s an it’s inappropriate to Put some kid to the ground and give them a lecture and tell them that they’re being cruel and mean. And I said, well, there were grown-ups present and they didn’t do anything about it. So I had a very Attitude. I always have.
Yeah, years later, even when I was spending time at the Wolf sanctuary, the lady that runs it is a Native American and I got, we got invited to the Navajo Nation in Tuba City. They have an event called the stars of the desert. The the stars of the desert is is an awards banquet for parents and to and they all of the children receive Accolades for their achievements during the course of the year. Now, on reservations, for instance, there are issues to deal with because If you’re educated, you understand the history of Indigenous. That was a rotten deal all the way around. They were their first and they don’t understand. They never believed in boundaries as far as states, etc. Etc. And land ownership. That being said, there are wonderful, wonderful people in all, all cultures and societies. Well, when we went to the banquet, we were be, we were honored guests, it was a privilege to be there and we would be on stage and we would read a three by five card that would explain A child’s efforts, their name, what they were working on during the course of the year and if they had any success in those efforts. So a lot of them were, you know, mary, tommy, billy, whoever Did good grades, that they volunteered for this or for that, and our and then you breathe, three, then the next Honor guests will read some more Well, during that evening I, one of the cards that I read, said the following Mary has cerebral palsy.
Mary has a difficult time. She’s a good student, but she has difficult time, for instance, eating a bowl of peas with a spoon and not spilling them. It was Mary’s intention to make sure that she could accept this challenge and succeed in the dexterity that the doctors and physical therapists were helping her work on with this situation called cerebral palsy. Eight months after her efforts began in this particular task, mary completed the task of eating an entire bowl of peas with a spoon and not spilling one. Well done. I will tell you honestly, I could barely speak those words in a manner which did not include me sobbing openly. I hear you. So my point is every day is a gift and a blessing, should be appreciated, shared and encouraged.
So, going back in time to where I was as a child, I had a lot of things to deal with and, back in the late 50s and early 60s, a family.
Even though my mother was a nurse, my father a world famous neurologist therapy, family therapy and counseling was not something that was looked upon as valuable or it was in bearish.
Yeah, problem, I’m sorry, but everybody has issues and tissues deal with it. So I got through grammar school, high school. When I went to high school, after a couple of weeks as a freshman, I got a phone call one night and there was somebody from the football team and his buddies laughing and joking in the background saying, quote you’re a freak, we don’t like to look at you, we see you at school, we don’t want you in our school and if you come back to class, you come back to school, we’re going to beat you up and deal with you because you’re a freak. So I was not pleased with that conversation and my parents said well, you got to go to school. So I went back and carried on and then until one day the individual that was on the football team that had made that he used to walk by me in the hallway and he would just growl, make weird noises and look at me weird. One day he did the proverbial pop the books that are that you’re holding under your arm and then run away and laugh.
I left the books on the floor, chased after him, and when he went down the staircase I took my hand and protected my wrist and I dove head first and my wrist caught him on the draw and knocked him unconscious. And then I had to go to the principal’s office and get, get, get. They were complaining about my inappropriate behavior.
0:15:54 – Speaker 2
Right, you’re the chocolate maker.
0:15:56 – Speaker 3
And I told them that I told you about this behavior and you didn’t do anything about it, because he’s on the football team and he can throw and catch a ball, big whoop. So I’ve always had an in your face attitude where the yeah that that’s really interesting.
0:16:11 – Speaker 2
I find out about you. How do people deal with that? Like you know, here’s a you know in the 50s that you’re saying. Like here’s a teenager kid kind of talking back to adults. Tell them hey, where are you guys, man, like you, you, you adults didn’t yell, these kids were doing stuff. I need to stand up for. You know, that’s kind of crazy.
0:16:28 – Speaker 3
Well, it’s just, it’s selfish behavior, because you’re only thinking about yourself, you the perpetrator and number two. If you don’t have anything good to say, then don’t say anything. And situation and you don’t, and you don’t try to help one way or another, then you’re part of the problem.
0:16:53 – Speaker 2
Ooh, that’s a good one. Yeah yeah, no, it’s very true, you’re right, that’s so. So, like through through high school, obviously you know kids were picking on yourself. I again. I find this interesting. It didn’t happen every day.
0:17:07 – Speaker 3
It didn’t happen every day, but the occasions that it did, it’s always painful.
It causes not psychosis, but it causes self worth issues, which can lead to alcoholism and other negative behavior and if you’re not dialed in straight and you understand from where this is coming, I don’t believe in turning the other Jake and saying, oh, they just don’t understand all that wishy washy baloney, I don’t buy into it. All it does is cause. It does not allow a door to be opened where this individual has an opportunity that you’re offering them to be, have some humanity and maybe deal with something called ethics. Some people would be receptive to an opportunity when you politely say, hey, what do you know? Why are you doing this? If you just approach them right back like just being angry, that’s not the best solution. So these, these ethical standards, in my opinion, relate to what type of society that you have as IE the individual and and and the group ethics. So that would separate us a lot of times, I believe, causes harm.
0:18:30 – Speaker 2
Yeah to it. It’s interesting hearing you talk and knowing you came from a family doctor. Is everyone kind of like Michael, come on, why don’t you go down the same path? It seemed like you took a different path from everyone else in your family, right?
0:18:43 – Speaker 3
Well, I wanted to be a veterinarian. That the ends of my fingers are my knuckles and the dexterity required to do procedures etc would would not be a benefit for anyone. I did take two years of pre veterinary science. Some of the some of the classes were challenging and difficult, but I did understand that my skill set would not be a helpful anyway shape or form. I worked in a lot of different fields, from the taxi driver, a lot of odd jobs, whatnot, what have you? And? And anytime when, when the warm season came about, like for instance when I was in college, I wasn’t interested in going to Vietnam. I have a lot of regard for our sons and daughters that do serve. I’m an advocate against war, I hate war and I think the leaders of countries should be in a cage with bricks and bottles. And they can.
0:19:42 – Speaker 2
They can figure it out, let them work, let them figure it out.
0:19:46 – Speaker 3
Well, I, one of the jobs that I had in the Los Angeles area for in the mid 80s was a legal courier. We took real important documents to the billionaires and I’m not I’m not exactly the office of the billionaires that own global corporations. They have private elevators, armani suit guards, and we were very good and proficient at taking these legal documents. Some went to federal courthouse, some, some went to other lawyers and accountants and they were time sensitive. We had people working in the film industry or college students, so you had to be smart enough to know how to do a filing, etc. My point being this I have been to the billionaire offices in the mid 80s of Fleur. Do you know what Fleur is?
0:20:45 – Speaker 2
Isn’t that a? Um? No, I probably don’t.
0:20:50 – Speaker 3
Fleur is a company in Long Beach Harbor. Harbors are international points of travel. International law the Geneva Convention is, from my understanding, then, that they do not have to comply. It’s my understanding that it’s a chemical company. They make chemicals. Some of the chemicals are in compounds and situations that might harm individuals and I’m trying to process stuff every here at Disney World City. It’s my understanding that it’s been brought to my attention that, well, they do whatever they want. My point is there’s Monsanto, other major corporations.
I’ve been to the offices of the billionaires and I applied, I did my job. I gave them papers, waited, got them signed, took the papers and delivered them to where they needed to be. Every office I went to, who the CEOs and the owners of global corporations had a map. They all had the same map. It was a white rectangle about four and a half feet wide, about three feet vertical. On the white was black lines. The black lines were the land masses. Where land masses meet water, they’re called continents. The interior of every land mass on that map had shapes, and the shapes were not the same shape of a state, of a country or province. They were like pieces of a puzzle, some clustered together, small, some larger and they didn’t equate to anything other than below the map of the world is a rectangle from left to right, a rectangle thin white on the left, dark red on the right. Panning from left to right it would change color light pink, darker pink, all the way to dark red. Below the rectangle, below the map of the continents, were lines coming down, descending left to right. There were names of the top global corporations that own the Earth, the colors of the, of course they correspond to the names that were coming from the descending lines. So it was like a puzzle, with white, dark red shades of in between, all over these land masses.
One day I asked one of the gentlemen what these maps meant and he said well, what does it say? On the top of the map? I said it says, quote corporate global zones of control. I’d say I like to ask a question. I already know the answer. He called me quote son. We start wars, we sell weapons to both sides of wars. Any country. We do whatever we want. We own the Earth.
0:24:35 – Speaker 2
Wow.
0:24:35 – Speaker 3
Thank you for being honest.
0:24:38 – Speaker 2
Wow, that was a lesson.
0:24:42 – Speaker 3
Well, I told him, I said I’m not an employee so you can’t fire me, but if I may speak honestly, would you, would that be okay? And he said sure, and I told him what I thought and then I left. Wow, so what is the point of all this? Just as people with physical, mental, emotional situations, nobody’s perfect.
0:25:14 – Speaker 2
Right.
0:25:16 – Speaker 3
And you could be. You can be perfect today and slip on a bar of soap and a shower and be gimped. So when you need people that are powerful, wealthy and looking down at you. Actually they need, they could benefit from some honesty.
And what my papers just says you might look at me with disdain or indifference, but know this, sir or madam, you might be on the top of the heap right now, but there will come a time when your time is short, even if you’re in a wealthy hospital room, you own the hospital. You have service waiting on you. Whatever you want, they keep you comfortable. Before you check out, you’re going to have an evaluation of how you lived your life, in an ethical or humane or not, manner.
So, all the times you think you’re winning, winning, winning, winning, winning. You’re building up karma, you’re building up points. I will go peacefully into that. Good night, sir, Perhaps you can do the same. Have a good day.
0:26:44 – Speaker 2
Man, that was really good, Michael.
0:26:46 – Speaker 3
Well, that’s a kind of a HIM.
0:26:51 – Speaker 2
Yeah, that I don’t even know how to talk with that now.
Um, well, if I still have a few more moments, every time the other you know the other thing I wanted to bring up is so, here you know, hearing all this, then you know, after high school it seems like you led in. You went to school and I think I mean I know you went to a venture, you were doing the venture or anything, but I think you also end up doing like, um, not a liberal arts, but like a art sort of like degree or so, like a art appreciation degree or something like that Is that. And then you ended up kind of opening a store with a friend of yours, right, like a, like a not a house decorating store, but it was like a something along those lines.
0:27:32 – Speaker 3
Uh, what? What happened? Uh, I went to college and I I took some science, took botany and zoology and English, latin history and sociology, and there were a lot of art classes. Uh, studied art history. I have a minor in art history. I’ll just means that I can tell you the difference between a Galgana and a clean, or Picasso or etc. Etc. Uh, so, and I and I also like, love music I don’t play an instrument, I can sing pretty well. I had the opportunity to to see some really cool concerts and from 1966, 1972.
0:28:17 – Speaker 2
And I was in the middle of the state of California.
0:28:19 – Speaker 3
one night it was a Jefferson airplane and a psychodynamic pillow concert in the gymnasium. That was awesome. I believe, that we were burning incense and smoking pot and it was. It’s funny how now there’s a medicinal marijuana, that people understand that the science is actually a real thing. It helps with seizures or so many ways to understand. My father told me years and years and years ago he said they should not eradicate opium in his opinion.
0:28:59 – Speaker 2
Why.
0:29:00 – Speaker 3
He said, because there’s, uh it has many wonderful ways of helping people. Wow, people that have uh abuse issues and problems. Uh, they’re always going to be among us, if you take away one substance, they’ll find something else.
I’m not a big fan of methamphetamine. I think that’s just. Uh. You can see we call them tweakers. It’s a very sad, debilitating condition. Not having national healthcare coverage for everyone, in my opinion, is a crime. I won’t say it’s a sin, because I’m an algebraic survivor and I don’t buy into sin. There’s inappropriate behavior and there’s repercussions to activism.
0:29:42 – Speaker 2
You just said something in passing and I want to dive into that.
0:29:45 – Speaker 3
Anyways, but my goodness, yeah, yeah, I remember when I did a film in Rome, I actually went with a friend of mine who was a. She was one of our stars, she was a high fashion model in Italy. She played Shiba. Her name was Shiba. Anyway, we went to uh, I went to the Vatican, long and short of it, and I know their history. I’ve talked to nuns and priests and brothers that left the organization and I know why. Yeah, yeah, I don’t need to explain to you why.
Yeah, you always want more money and not a big fan of organized religion. We did that as it may. I went on a tour and when we got down into the catacombs I had a few historically uh, precise questions and, uh, I guess I bummed out a lot of people on their vacation because I reminded them of inappropriate behavior and I knew people that were no longer brothers or priests or nuns, and and I know why, and I was asked to leave. So I told the Vatican guard I says, if you touch me on my shoulder, I will leave. I’m leaving right now. You work for a very evil institution If you don’t like it. And you’re hearing this and do your history and learn something. You know, the carpenter was a pretty groupie guy, you know he was not a lump, you know.
But uh, there’s two things that, uh, I’ve had philosophy or a decision about, which is what causes a lot of pain and suffering. Uh, the two of the biggest ones are this if you draw a line in the dirt and you say, don’t cross that line, blood leaves people’s bodies.
You say my God is better than your God. Blood leaves people’s bodies. Those two concepts need to be antiquated and put to rest. When you are pointing your finger at something, take your thumb and push it toward the sky, man, when you are observing that position of your hand, thumb and forefinger the thumb, in my opinion, represents grace, your ability to be receptive to positive energy, inspiration. What you do is the finger pointing out toward the world and the rest of humanity. Those are your actions, but there’s three fingers pointing back to you. You’re in the palm of your hand. That’s the payback that you get. What?
0:32:37 – Speaker 2
would you like to?
0:32:38 – Speaker 3
receive. There’s just a thought.
0:32:42 – Speaker 2
Yeah, it’s funny. It’s funny you said that because hearing you talk, I’m like I’m surprised you didn’t take philosophy in school. I could have seen you going down those roads for sure.
0:32:51 – Speaker 3
Well, when I left college in 1972, I was very poor, didn’t have a degree, I had managed restaurants. I had even a meat cutter butcher, taxi driver, legal courier, et cetera, et cetera We’d cover a donut shop for a friend of mine when they went on vacation. That’s cool. We would make donuts all night, but when the sun came up in the morning, you’re making the apple fritters. And then, yes, of course, ladies and gentlemen that wear the shield and swear of the oath to protect us would stop by and yes they do take donuts with them.
It’s a fact. So when I left college and I put myself through college, I worked odd jobs. I didn’t know what I was gonna do when I left college. In my book, in my memoir, I explained that whole process of what happened. In all that you know, in the books Ready.
0:33:57 – Speaker 2
Yeah, we’ll talk more about that in a minute.
0:34:01 – Speaker 3
I want to ask you a really good question. I met a friend at Venice Beach who rented an old house at Dope, probably in 1930 or 40, right on the beach on West Washington Boulevard. Now it’s very hoody-toody, expensive. There’s a place called the Gallimalfry, which is an antique store, and the people that owned the store were very, very, very nice. They were our neighbors and we just had the local people that did artwork. I think we rented the little house for $70 a month and we had some small house plants and then the local artists would put their stuff in their shop and we would get a percentage if somebody came in and bought it. We were only in business for six months. We didn’t make any money, but we met some cool people.
Some of the cool people we met were the owners of the Gallimalfry, and the wife had a father who happened to be George Powell, and I met George Powell one night and he said your face is interesting, you could be a character actor in my movie, doc Savies. And I said I’m not an actor. Well, first he asked are you an actor? And I said no, man, I studied some art. I want to go to Homestead in Alaska and be out in nature, and he said well, here’s my card. I got a two-day part. I’ll get you in the union, pay you 400 bucks and if anybody asks you, tell them. I discovered you and I said you’re George Powell. You did war in the world and a few other places. Just call my office. So that’s how that happened.
0:35:30 – Speaker 2
Yeah, I mean, I’m a person who doesn’t believe anything happens on accident, and it’s just very cool that he walked into your it sounds like oh, we were in his store. We were in his store, oh, okay.
0:35:45 – Speaker 3
We went to his daughter’s store. They had a special invitation sale for expensive antiquities. There was, you know, Bentley’s and Rolls Royce’s and Shorfer’s, and so we brought over some of our plants and stuff to make the place look kind of you know Okay, okay. And then hanging around. Hanging around, you know, we had, you know, hair out of glass of wine and a biscuit, and you know, and so we’re just hanging out having a good time, and that’s how I met George.
0:36:13 – Speaker 2
That’s funny. And then from what I heard, you did that part and then the next part you got was one flu of the cuckoo’s nest and everything else kind of took off from there, right.
0:36:20 – Speaker 3
That is correct. That’s crazy, that’s correct, I know the more reason I did cuckoo’s nest is because George’s casting director was Fenton Feinberg, who were casting for cuckoo’s nest. Otherwise I didn’t have an agent in that headshots. They just happened to know me from that George’s movie. Could have been any other casting director, but it just happened to be them and there’s a reason why that happened. But you have to read my book because something happened.
0:36:49 – Speaker 1
Exactly.
0:36:50 – Speaker 3
Something happened before I came back to California that kind of put karma in motion and explained that in my book.
0:37:00 – Speaker 2
There’s one last thing I want to mention before we talk about the book that I liked, and you actually said this at one point during the interview too. You said well, I heard you talking about one flu of the cuckoo’s nest. You said I asked so many questions, like when you’re on the set, I thought that you seem like a person you just want to learn, like you want to know stuff and understand it, and I find it interesting You’re like you don’t hear new actors are saying you’re like, oh, I need to learn all this stuff. I had to ask them when you were just like I asked everyone all these questions and I found that it’s just interesting that you do that.
0:37:30 – Speaker 3
Well, it’s a process. When you get something called a call sheet, it has everybody who’s working on the film and you look and there’s a couple of hundred people. There’s drivers, there’s painters, there’s a wardrobe and makeup and electricians and lighting and camera and a whole lot of people get in pain to do something and they’re all very skilled and talented. So if you’re working with actors that are not professional, they turn into an ego child and I don’t want green jelly beans in the bowl. I mean, they’re not rock stars, and I’ve worked with rock stars that should have behaved themselves and others that were so professional. It was amazing.
So when I asked Milo Schvormann one day, I walked up to him and I said what do I need to know? And he walked me over to the camera. He said he popped on his pipe and he said look at the camera. I’m looking at the lenses, have a love affair with a glass. And then he handed me a book on cinematography and I studied it every. I was there 127 days, every day, on a six days a week. I was on the set on my days off so I could watch, observe and ask wow, no kidding, that’s cool.
Yeah, how can you do do a scene over and over and over and over and over again because there’s different angles. Close up on this person, not you but you. They want you there. So the person can ask you, and I started realizing I used to invite friends to the set and after three or four days of that they go. I think I have something else to do.
0:39:11 – Speaker 2
These are all hours.
0:39:13 – Speaker 3
A lot of hurry up and wait is one of them.
0:39:16 – Speaker 2
Yeah, no yeah, yeah, definitely. So. So now you have this book coming out, michael, like you’ve been working on it, like what, what’s it going to kind of be about? How long is the book going to be? Kind of tell you, let the audience tease the audience with this.
0:39:29 – Speaker 3
Well, I have my. I just printed today my 12 chapter summaries, with the epilogue and their introduction, with my co-writer, nice, run 200 pages, I suppose it. We’re getting the numbers up on tick tock. If anybody hears this, please go to tick tock and get the ball foot. I check out my videos and help the numbers get up there, because it’s writing. It is one thing, getting it out and about there’s also business plans. So it’s you know it’s like. Basically it’s my life story from when I was born until almost recently.
0:40:10 – Speaker 2
Okay, that’s very cool. Now, Like, do you have like an ETA of when the book might actually be out, or you’re still working up to that point?
0:40:20 – Speaker 3
Well, we’re, that’s a good question. I want to post on social media and Facebook, especially on tick tock, and then I have friends that have to podcast radio stations, even like yourself. So I’m hoping, I’m hoping by this fall is what I’m hoping for. I’ll know more as the weeks go by.
0:40:42 – Speaker 2
That’s very cool, awesome. Is there anything else you got going on? They’re working and what they can talk about anyways that you want to mention, or whatever.
0:40:52 – Speaker 3
Well, yeah, I took a lot of classes and public speaking and one of the things that I learned from my professor was you never want to say in conclusion, I’m a. Actually, what I will say is basically a philosophical, in the sense that, for instance, when I see interviews and people, they, they have an agenda. They want, you want to talk about something, a film that you did, or this or that, because you want people to go out and see it so the investors can make their money back, not because they’re greedy, but because they put up the money to do something creative and we want them to do well, so they can tell another story. We tell stories of songs songs, tell stories, shares are
common values and humanities. So what I would like to just leave as my gift back to say thank you for allowing us to have this conversation or form, is that folks, sometimes, some days are easier than others, some, some, some efforts are discouraging and some are, more surprisingly, in the most positive way than you could imagine. I’ll leave it at this Be lazy. It’s a beauty secret in more than one way. If you don’t want a lot of wrinkles, then don’t frown. Be lazy. It takes 27 muscles to frown. It only takes three to smile.
0:42:41 – Speaker 2
That is pretty awesome, michael. Again, you kind of left me speechless twice in a row here, so that’s a good way to end. I appreciate you a lot, and I don’t forget that he’s going to be at the tornado music and film festival August 27. You’ll be able to shake hands and then take pictures. You’re going to be able to be able to meet the Michael Berryman. So, michael, again I appreciate your time. Thank you so much for doing this, and we’re looking forward to seeing you in less than two months.
0:43:10 – Speaker 3
It’s been an absolute pleasure. All my best to you and yours and everyone listening. Make tomorrow a better day. If you’re having a tough time, go talk to a cat or dog, watch a bird or something in nature. It’ll always be soothing for you. And if you ever have a question. You can ask your dog or your cat what do I do? And I look at you and go wolf from meow, look their tail and say you’re an idiot.
0:43:39 – Speaker 2
Sometimes, you’re right, yeah, seriously, well, michael, again, thank you so much, and everyone don’t forget to embrace your storm.
0:43:55 – Speaker 1
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